http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/-t1.htm You must be registered to post in this forum. Sat, 07 Aug 2010 21:17:35 GMT 10 http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/12/08/38/71/header10.jpg http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/-t1.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-hispida-t1484.htm Radek Benda Does anyone here Atheris hispidus? I wonder about farming, whether someone managed to reproduce. And possible problems ..
Thanks for all possible informationas about this species...
Some information is in World of Atheris,but I would prefer someone who has experience with them.
Thanks,
Radek. ]]> Atheris Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:39:37 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-hispida-t1484.htm#8464 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-hispida-t1484.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/taking-in-some-water-t2522.htm Graeme Skinner
]]> Atheris Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:37:28 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/taking-in-some-water-t2522.htm#16177 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/taking-in-some-water-t2522.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-squamigera-t2658.htm Bjoern Gotzmann
]]> Atheris Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:45:03 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-squamigera-t2658.htm#17134 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-squamigera-t2658.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/nitschei-imports-t2761.htm joshua richards
-josh]]> Atheris Sat, 07 Aug 2010 21:17:35 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/nitschei-imports-t2761.htm#17848 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/nitschei-imports-t2761.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/a-squamigera-t2688.htm Christian Moisander And for a change, something other than puniceus

One of the Black Tigers, CBB '10.

]]> Atheris Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:02:32 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/a-squamigera-t2688.htm#17330 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/a-squamigera-t2688.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/new-picture-of-my-squam-t2717.htm Graeme Skinner I've had this squam for a couple of months and she shed her skin last night. As she looks real nice I thought I'd take some new images as I find it relaxing. Anyway I hope to get another couple of these in Houten later in the year. I'm still trying to capture her flicking out her tongue! Atheris Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:15:13 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/new-picture-of-my-squam-t2717.htm#17521 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/new-picture-of-my-squam-t2717.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/a-squamigera-colors-t2689.htm Jan Claudius Schwitalla
[img][/img]]]> Atheris Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:58:12 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/a-squamigera-colors-t2689.htm#17340 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/a-squamigera-colors-t2689.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/my-atheris-chlorechis-and-squamigera-t1474.htm Radek Benda Hello, here is a few photos of my Atheris collection. Sorry for not very good images quality and my english too.. Atheris chlorechis 1.1 Atheris chlorechis female Atheris Squamigera male Atheris Squamigera 1.1 Atheris Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:06:28 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/my-atheris-chlorechis-and-squamigera-t1474.htm#8413 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/my-atheris-chlorechis-and-squamigera-t1474.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/nitschei-t2595.htm Rene Schenk Here some pics of A.nitschei the guy didn't realy like the shooting, while the girl was kind of relaxed Greetings Rene Atheris Tue, 06 Jul 2010 06:06:26 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/nitschei-t2595.htm#16707 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/nitschei-t2595.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/a-few-pictures-of-my-chlorechis-t2591.htm Michael Burmeister My Female [url= My Male I have noticed that most of the other pics i have seen the males have the paired yellow dots on their back as well. This particular male has no yellow on him at all. Could this be locality or perhaps his age? He is about 35cm long currently. Hope you like the pictures. Atheris Mon, 05 Jul 2010 10:09:42 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/a-few-pictures-of-my-chlorechis-t2591.htm#16646 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/a-few-pictures-of-my-chlorechis-t2591.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/achlorechis-breeding-advice-needed-t2575.htm Michael Burmeister Hi guys some advice about breeding this species would be very much appreciated. I have done a lot of reading on them but practical tips from your experience would help a lot. I acquired a pair of A.chlorechis from a friend. Both the male and female seem to be doing very well, both eat and drink regularly. I am keeping them in 30litre plastic tubs with holes drilled for ventilation. I’m using sphagnum moss as a substrate with plenty place to climb and perch. I’m using plastic plants in ... Atheris Fri, 02 Jul 2010 09:35:26 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/achlorechis-breeding-advice-needed-t2575.htm#16508 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/achlorechis-breeding-advice-needed-t2575.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/aceratophora-breeding-protocol-t879.htm Neil Villard

a person which would have reproduced will ceratophora could it indicate under which conditions it to maintained these adults and which period " hivernal" seem to be best adapted. I passably read opinions different on activation from the cycle of reproduction.

Thanks

Neil Villard]]> Atheris Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:31:11 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/aceratophora-breeding-protocol-t879.htm#4983 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/aceratophora-breeding-protocol-t879.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-nitschei-group-t2498.htm Ralph Tümmers Here are some pictures of my Atheris nitschei group : I hope some interesting spp´s will follow next time, Greets Ralph Atheris Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:09:18 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-nitschei-group-t2498.htm#15921 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-nitschei-group-t2498.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/a-ceratophora-t2527.htm Rene Schenk






Cheers
Rene]]> Atheris Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:26:26 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/a-ceratophora-t2527.htm#16206 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/a-ceratophora-t2527.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/my-first-squam-t2511.htm Graeme Skinner
One of Alfred snakes.

Taken in some later afternoon light

Two different methods used here



]]> Atheris Wed, 16 Jun 2010 17:29:08 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/my-first-squam-t2511.htm#16070 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/my-first-squam-t2511.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/some-squamigera-in-the-uk-t2365.htm mark craddock


]]> Atheris Sun, 16 May 2010 22:16:57 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/some-squamigera-in-the-uk-t2365.htm#15074 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/some-squamigera-in-the-uk-t2365.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-chorechis-t2440.htm Jorg Schenkels here some pics of my bush vipers..

1.0


0.1 i think she is gravid




gr jorg]]> Atheris Mon, 31 May 2010 16:56:45 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-chorechis-t2440.htm#15560 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-chorechis-t2440.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/my-new-lovely-squamigera-female-t2414.htm Michael Hugi [/img]

www.squamigera.ch






.]]> Atheris Wed, 26 May 2010 18:12:28 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/my-new-lovely-squamigera-female-t2414.htm#15419 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/my-new-lovely-squamigera-female-t2414.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/squamigera-open-mouth-t1873.htm Michael Fischer
i have an adult Atheris squamigera female since a few day she obens her mouth, especially when i spray water.
I think its a light lung inflammation (or something like that)
she eats and her behavior otherwise is normal.

Is there anything i can do against is?
Raise the temperature?

thanks
Michael]]> Atheris Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:49:55 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/squamigera-open-mouth-t1873.htm#11330 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/squamigera-open-mouth-t1873.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/squamiger-x-chlorechis-t2282.htm Brance Mauldin Does anyone know if someone has every crossed a squam with a chlorechis or vise-versa? Or could it even be done? The reason I ask is because on page 21 of R.D. Bartlett & Kenneth Wray's book entitled "Vipers" there is a picture of a chlorechis that has an intense amount of blotched yellow throughout its body. It is labeled as an abnormally colored chlorechis but I still couldn't help but wonder if perhaps it was a hybrid. Atheris Sun, 02 May 2010 03:23:20 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/squamiger-x-chlorechis-t2282.htm#14493 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/squamiger-x-chlorechis-t2282.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/sole-survivor-t589.htm Christian Moisander So, as I mentioned in Mr. Keenan's thread earlier, my young adult A. nitschei pair copulated for the first time on July 12th '07. They did copulate on several other occasions later that year as well. Finally something happened this month, on 21st; the female was finally giving birth! The result was some unfertilized goo (soft, without solid form), 4 stillborn babies and 1 weak, miniscule baby. I was pretty sure this smaller-than-a-pencil baby wouldn't make it, but roughly 12 hours after ... Atheris Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:31:30 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/sole-survivor-t589.htm#3373 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/sole-survivor-t589.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/dinner-for-two-t2086.htm Rene Schenk

]]> Atheris Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:25:51 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/dinner-for-two-t2086.htm#13008 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/dinner-for-two-t2086.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-desaixi-the-mount-kenyan-bush-viper-a-brief-article-t2089.htm TOM_CRUTCHFIELD First Picture: My dear friend, former employee, and expert photographer Bill Love took this most excellent photo at my facility with a professional's camera. Second Picture: This photo was taken by my me to show you the difference between an expert and an average photographer. LOL. These rare snakes are only found in two locations, one around Igembe in the Northern Nyambe range and one at Chuka on the southeast side of Mount Kenya. It is extremely difficult to find even recently imported ... Atheris Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:31:31 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-desaixi-the-mount-kenyan-bush-viper-a-brief-article-t2089.htm#13036 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-desaixi-the-mount-kenyan-bush-viper-a-brief-article-t2089.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/pre-birth-sheds-in-atheris-t1591.htm Brance Mauldin The most experienced squam breeder I know says Atheris, or at least his, do not have pre-birth sheds. At the same time, there are a few other breeders that say they do. Has anyone here had any experiences with this? I'm curious what others have to say about this topic. Thanks. Atheris Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:59:13 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/pre-birth-sheds-in-atheris-t1591.htm#9126 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/pre-birth-sheds-in-atheris-t1591.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/green-gone-blue-t2060.htm Timothy Sieber She started out very green with green eyes and ended up blue with white eyes. Also a very docile disposition. [url=] [url=] [url=] Atheris Tue, 23 Mar 2010 04:46:33 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/green-gone-blue-t2060.htm#12784 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/green-gone-blue-t2060.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-squamigera-babies-born-2312-2009-t1775.htm Radek Benda Hello guys This is my first squam babies... Female shed 20.12 and born babies 23.12 afternoon Atheris Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:19:54 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-squamigera-babies-born-2312-2009-t1775.htm#10604 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-squamigera-babies-born-2312-2009-t1775.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/somemore-squams-t2005.htm Rene Schenk Finaly it happend, one of my females dropped 7 youngsters. I already gave up to hope for a birth. The girl was eating all the times, like a costructionworker. Feb. 11th she refused food, last meal was exactly one mouth before, and Feb. 12th i found the baby's in the cage. BTW she was not presheding, but 6 days after giving birth. Cheers Rene Atheris Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:47:10 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/somemore-squams-t2005.htm#12338 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/somemore-squams-t2005.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/baby-squams-t2044.htm Derek Moynihan I came home from work this morning to find a nice litter of squamigera. I see 7 so far. They all look cool but I see a few stand outs. I'm very happy because this is my first time breeding this species. I will post pics as soon as I figure out how. Atheris Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:20:20 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/baby-squams-t2044.htm#12680 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/baby-squams-t2044.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-mabuensis-t1303.htm Rob Deans
I have the pdf if anyone is interested. Maybe Mario will allow it to be uploaded onto the site if anyone wants it.]]> Atheris Wed, 03 Jun 2009 09:46:13 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-mabuensis-t1303.htm#7222 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-mabuensis-t1303.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/a-few-photos-t1944.htm Derek Morgan I haven't posted any photos here in a while, so I thought I'd post a couple of quick ones I snapped while cleaning cages last night. The photos are nothing special, but they are simply an update of some of the animals here. I love how the color seems to keep changing on this girl. One minute she looks blackish, the next she looks muddy brown, and the next she has red and orange highlights all over her. Check out the orange speckles under her eye. I didn't alter the color on that, so ... Atheris Tue, 02 Mar 2010 04:01:22 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/a-few-photos-t1944.htm#11902 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/a-few-photos-t1944.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/anitschei-t1936.htm eddie benshner Always nice to see this.Hopefully it goes better then last time,were i got 2 deadborn

regards
Eddie]]> Atheris Sun, 28 Feb 2010 09:53:03 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/anitschei-t1936.htm#11855 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/anitschei-t1936.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/my-atheris-squamigera-22-t1986.htm Courtney Roles Female 1 Female 2 Male 2...actually that MIGHT be the female again now that I look at the pic..LOL!! Guess it's time for some updates on the male.. Male 1 The yellow colors are very hard for me to get pics of, they seem to turn out to "lemony" or too drab. They really are a nice buttercup yellow in places, with some blue around the tails, the body is rather gray with black markings. The blue pair are a pretty blue green. The female really ... Atheris Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:49:44 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/my-atheris-squamigera-22-t1986.htm#12252 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/my-atheris-squamigera-22-t1986.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-squamigera-t1979.htm Joe Switalski




]]> Atheris Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:34:37 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-squamigera-t1979.htm#12193 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-squamigera-t1979.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/family-sized-bucket-o-squam-t1945.htm Andrew Hacket New Atheris squamigera undergo a complete water spraying here in the quarantine, South Africa. Atheris Tue, 02 Mar 2010 05:16:42 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/family-sized-bucket-o-squam-t1945.htm#11905 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/family-sized-bucket-o-squam-t1945.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/babys-are-born-t1866.htm Julian Löppenberg Hi, today one of my two females dropped 17 healthy little critters, no slugs or deadborn Here a few pics and the mother after "work" was done regards Julian Atheris Fri, 05 Feb 2010 21:16:33 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/babys-are-born-t1866.htm#11302 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/babys-are-born-t1866.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/strange-looking-anitschei-t1799.htm Domenic de Sousa Late last year my A.nitschei female dropped a single baby. The baby was very healthy and ate a week or so after it was born. I ended up selling him to a friend of mine while he was still completely black. I went to visit the little fellow the other day after he shed and to my surprise the bottom half of his body closely resembles that of A. rungweensis. Will this colour change with age or is just a good looker? Atheris Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:20:01 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/strange-looking-anitschei-t1799.htm#10759 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/strange-looking-anitschei-t1799.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/little-miss-t1854.htm Rene Schenk This girly is about 6 month old.


And the boy 5 month.


Not my babys, but nice anyway]]> Atheris Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:43:08 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/little-miss-t1854.htm#11210 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/little-miss-t1854.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/finaly-i-got-some-t1813.htm BradMiller
My first species of Atheris and certainly not last.

Some pics of the little tykes


]]> Atheris Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:55:43 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/finaly-i-got-some-t1813.htm#10880 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/finaly-i-got-some-t1813.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/i-love-the-greens-t1827.htm Jonas Hill

]]> Atheris Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:35:59 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/i-love-the-greens-t1827.htm#10976 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/i-love-the-greens-t1827.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-ceratophora-t1786.htm Matt Robinson I enjoy all of the Atherini tribe, but this is possibly the best for me. (By a very slight margin). She is due for a shed and i will post more pics of her then. Atheris Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:25:55 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-ceratophora-t1786.htm#10707 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-ceratophora-t1786.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-nitschei-babies-t1419.htm Emilio Ramirez I hope you like.
Regards.
]]> Atheris Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:31:48 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-nitschei-babies-t1419.htm#8090 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-nitschei-babies-t1419.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/cb09-atheris-chloroechis-t1707.htm dave pauwels this week 3 baby bushvipers were born here dad: mom: baby's: greetz dave Atheris Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:06:16 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/cb09-atheris-chloroechis-t1707.htm#9996 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/cb09-atheris-chloroechis-t1707.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atherini-pics-atheris-montatheris-proatheris-t1633.htm Maik Dobiey I wanted to share some of my images of the Atherini tribe. The pictures were taken in the wild during a trip to Kenya and in captivity. I hope you enjoy the images which you can find HERE Thanks to BioKen and the National Museum of Kenya as well as Michael Bollhorn where some of the captive specimens were photographed. Atheris Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:59:43 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atherini-pics-atheris-montatheris-proatheris-t1633.htm#9520 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atherini-pics-atheris-montatheris-proatheris-t1633.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-ceratophora-t1644.htm Sebastian Rosberg
How do you guys keep yours? how big is the tank? How warm do you have in the tank and such?
And finally have anyone managed to make them to breed?
If you want to put up some info just answer here or send me a PM

Cheers Sebastian]]> Atheris Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:56:29 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-ceratophora-t1644.htm#9632 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/atheris-ceratophora-t1644.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/any-desaixi-keepers-t1432.htm Marthinus C. Harmse I was just wondering. Are there any Atheris desaixi keepers abroad, and if so has anyone ever bred these? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Atheris Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:56:12 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/any-desaixi-keepers-t1432.htm#8152 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/any-desaixi-keepers-t1432.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/feeding-drc-squamigera-ch09-t1160.htm Andrew Hacket Aloha Venomland , Today I am feeding 9 of the baby DRC squamigera , it was taking 90minutes to feed 9 babies 2 pink parts each. Here's the pictures , also thanks to Derek Morgan for his experience and advice on the feeding. Some of the babies I need to lift into the air to feed after striking otherwise they are dropping the item and running. Cheers Andrew [img]http://lh4.ggpht.com/_A4KxL3YnH-U/Sd-MRmvuV0I/AAAAAAAADl4/WHwy13bxshA/s800/IMG_4851.JPG[/img Atheris Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:29:04 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/feeding-drc-squamigera-ch09-t1160.htm#6459 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/feeding-drc-squamigera-ch09-t1160.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/various-atheris-pics-t370.htm Derek Morgan Before my children were born I had a very large collection of Atheris here. Here are some of the snakes that I dearly miss. I will probably tinker with these species again sometime in the near future. My kids are just getting old enough where I am gearing my collection back up some, primarily with squamigera. I'm just showing off, so I hope you don't mind.....actually, I hope that you enjoy them. Ceratophora: Nitschei: Desaixi: Chlorechis: Squamigera: Atheris Tue, 13 May 2008 16:00:45 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/various-atheris-pics-t370.htm#1814 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/various-atheris-pics-t370.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/another-squam-litter-t923.htm Derek Morgan While they are no where near as nice as Tomas's babies, I was very happy to see these guys yesterday: Here's mom: And dad: Atheris Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:44:59 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/another-squam-litter-t923.htm#5127 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/another-squam-litter-t923.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/ceratophora-macros-t712.htm Derek Morgan I was playing with the macro lens when I was feeding and cleaning this past weekend. I did not use a tripod and my hand was kind of jittery, so the DOF is very shallow. But I still like the results. This one is totally out of focus, but I still really like it for some reason: Atheris Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:47:24 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/ceratophora-macros-t712.htm#3979 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/ceratophora-macros-t712.htm http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/nice-surprise-t1440.htm Dirk Ebling
Thats happend...

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Cheers Dirk

I hope you wil understand my bad english...]]> Atheris Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:34:27 GMT http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/nice-surprise-t1440.htm#8203 http://www.venomland.net/atheris-f7/nice-surprise-t1440.htm