Mario Lutz Founder


 Number of posts: 1402 Age: 44 Location: Puerto Galera, Philippines Points: 3784 Registration date: 2008-03-06
 | Subject: Bitis gabonica or Bitis rhinoceros? Sat 5 Apr - 12:33 | |
| years back, i found this amazing picture on the net, i think (but i am not sure) it is from Zoltan Takac. my question is, is this a Bitis gabonica or an Bitis rhinoceros?  in my opinion, it has the eye markings from a Gabun Viper? any ideas? what ever species it is, thats one big SoaB! cheers Mario |
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Ronny Levin Snakekeeper

 Number of posts: 58 Age: 31 Location: Sweden Points: 1561 Registration date: 2008-03-17
 | Subject: Hello.. Sun 6 Apr - 1:06 | |
| Hello Mario...
There is a big discussion on this image at southafrican forum http://www.sareptiles.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9525
Cheers, Ronny |
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Pascal Kamp Snakecharmer


 Number of posts: 100 Age: 40 Location: The Netherlands Points: 1575 Registration date: 2008-04-06
 | Subject: Re: Bitis gabonica or Bitis rhinoceros? Sun 6 Apr - 4:47 | |
| What I see is 2 stripes behind the eye. (ore a devided stripe). There fore I say it's the nominate race; g.gabonica (eastern). This is written on the SA Reptiles forum: | Quote: | | According to the title that gaboon was from the southeastern rainforest of the Cameroons. |
I'm not sure if the western race (rhinoceros) occurs in Cameroon. I thought the geographic range starts from Benin.(ore ends ) There is also the possibility of an intergrade...
I've seen the picture before... The snake looks like a monster. But the animal is hold close to the camera and the guy is in the back... |
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Jörg Porstmann Founder

 Number of posts: 249 Age: 38 Location: Ahlen, NRW, Germany Points: 2159 Registration date: 2008-03-06
 | Subject: Re: Bitis gabonica or Bitis rhinoceros? Sun 6 Apr - 14:50 | |
| Even if the perspective helps to let the snake looking bigger. It is very big. |
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Wolfgang Wüster Systematicus

Number of posts: 246 Age: 102 Location: UK Points: 1790 Registration date: 2008-03-12
 | Subject: Re: Bitis gabonica or Bitis rhinoceros? Sun 6 Apr - 17:05 | |
| It's definitely B. gabonica, with Zoltan Takacs holding it. Bitis gabonica extends west as far as Nigeria, B. rhinoceros takes over from Ghana westward. We are doing some mtDNA work on this species at the moment - gabonica is actually remarkably homogenous all the way from Cameroon to S. Africa.
Cheers,
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