I came across this photo while sorting through photo files on my computer. I had this male for several years, but could never find a suitable female.

NICE !
Never saw arietans this yellow...

Pascal.

I was told he was a "Cape" locality Puff Adder. I've seen many sold as "Cape" locality and most had little to no yellow.

A few years ago, someone stole that photo from my old Venom Street website, and advertised their Puff Adder for sale on Kingsnake and used my photo. I emailed the guy from a different email address so he wouldn't recognize me, and asked about his snake. He led me to believe that it was his snake in that photo. Then I told him it was my photo that he stole. He apologized and said his male looks just like that, but he doesn't have a camera. He took his ad down. I never did see a photo of his.

I bought a Yellow Puff Adder from Mardi Snipes, that was quite yellow, but he was a pale yellow with black and brown markings. Pretty nice, but like this guy.

What do you think about these juvenile puff adders?

Peter

Ah Peter seen some before of this scaleless bitis.
If I realy honest I would´nt keep such kind of mutants.
But what I wanna know is how they feel. *g*

When I first moved to Florida a couple years ago, I went to Glades Herps. Robbie Keszey had some scaleless Puffs. They look and probably feel silky smooth. I think Rob wanted something like $2500 each for them. Not my cup of tea either,

Peter,

I can understand your dilemma very well (despite what may have seemed like harsh words in my resonse) - if I could raise the money for a field trip by selling involuntarily produced mutants, I would find it hard to say no!

And I am also aware of the fact that freezing a reptile is not a kind way to kill it, and not one I would use, but I used the phrase since the practice is unfortunately still common in herpetoculture, and something many reasers will be able to relate to.

Cheers,

WW

Wolfgang,

I've been asking the members here for their position and I did not have any problem with your clear statement, quite the contrary i expected it from you and other members here that way.
My own statement was done in order to avoid the possible impression of beeing proud of it.

The fact, how many people have been ready to pay 10 or 20 times as much for a defect creature than for a normal, healthy one, was a frightening experience.

Greetings from Austria
Peter

Peter,


there are many defect humans around as well...
would love to put them straight in to the freezer as well...

i find your patternless Bitis cute looking, nothing wrong with it! lets take a look at the burmese pythons, the ball pythons, all the cornsnakes, all the intermediate ratsnakes. or just check our closest friends, canis lupus *domesticus*, havnt humas changed and domesticated wildlife as long they exist? what about all the different kind of rabbits, birds and fish, who only occur in captivity?

i mean - its not my thing, all this morphs and mutants but, if folks like them better? why not, they might stop taking the "ugly ones" from the wild (who would catch a Burmese pythons from the wild?), who knows! maybe all this color-morphs and mutants gonna safe one time their relatives in the wild? noh? and as long they will not be introduced back into their original habitats, who harms anything? if a nice colored bearded dragon as pet in new york helps to raise awareness for reptilians in kids, isnt that somethings good? all the australian lovebirds breeds in their cages around the world dont harm no one at all.

as long as their are enough folks interested in their natural ancestors, is it fine with me.

just my 2 cents!


cheers
Mario

scaleless, thats what i meant - sorry for the confusion

Hello Randy!

Maybe you didn´t found any suitable female for him, because you searches for the wrong locality. This male is defenitly NOT from SA. This is a typical male Puffadder from DRC (former Zaire). I had a almost same male for several years as well, but couldn´t found a suitable female for him, as my female died a week later I got him. Bad luck.
Maybe with this information you can find some new ones.

Best wishes

Frank

i had a male, similar from Tanzania...

i would love to see some more picture from different (proofen) localitys...


cheers
Mario

Thanks for the info Frank. The guy I bought that male from told me it was a "Cape" Puff Adder. I saw other "Cape" Puff Adders for sale, but none looked like my male. I did look at all Puffs in classifieds, just never saw anything like him.

Interesting thread with some logical interaction about Bitis arietans,
and apparently im late to the show but i did view these in the past on Glades herp pricelist.

I purchased this beautiful snake from my friend Tommy Crutchfileld. It is of Namibian origin.

hi one question... do you anything paper or information about the other species of snakes borning scaleless??? i'm very interesant... first time i look see.... amazing... and excuse me for my dab english...