Hey everybody!

I have a question: Who is breeding Bitis nasicornis in 2010/2011?

Thanks for reading :-)

Best regards.

Im also interested Ghana locality prefered

Hi ,
I have bred nasicornis (Ghana). My female is gravid now and I expect the babies to be born between now and June.
Unfortunately she is not a massive girl and I do not expect a huge litter

Cheers
Al

There was a large shipment from a farm in Ghana here to the US. A few importers managed to get there hands on some. One of which ive worked with a number of time, and just about sold the litter of 50 that he imported off in about 3 days. I managed to get my hands on a few, but i would think that they made their way to a few other places then just the states.

Hi Manuel

I might be breeding nasicornis in 2010/2011.
It's such a pity that I have had some nice ones go through my hands.

I'm getting a healthy adult Ugandese pair soon so lets hold thumbs.
I would like to think that they are similar to other Bitis I have bred but I think that assumption might just bring false hope.

Can Al give us a breeding tip or two ?

Looking forward to hearing more from others.

If anyone can offer advice - it would be Al! I currently have a WC Ugandan Female thats in slough- and im debating if I want to breed her with one of my West African rhinos- or if i want to cross her with one of my Gaboons. I think the colors will be greater if I go for the Hybrid. Where I feel that im going to lose allot of the Ugandan coloration - if i do a Ghana cross... Just up in the air.

Why not make the effort to find a "Ugandan" male to breed her with instead of crossing her with your "West African" or worse yet a Gaboon? Good grief, what's the rush to breed her anyway?

Well I would not mind breeding her with another Ugandan - but with the amount of time- and money there is involved with tracking one down- it kinda puts a damper to things. And if i were to play the odds game~ I would have to remember that it took me 2 years + to obtain the Ugandan I have in my collection. I myself also find hybrid Gabinos as being good looking snakes. My gabs are all Ghana locality - and my male is about as close to white on its lighter tone- to being a very faint cream/blond color. I would think that a Ugandan Rhino and a light colored gab- should produce a few vividly colored hybrids. Im also sure that i can fetch a pretty penny for the offspring. Wholesale is taking a cut. But at the same- when you already have a buyer, and its all my investment- kinda leaves me in a fun position as to what do i want to breed... With the money invested in a handful of my bitis - and the firearms i built and sold to obtain them... Its either - they pay back my investment - or i make one slick pair of boots... As seeing that my hots and machine equipment share a large room- which ever investment grows first- singles out the weaker. And right now - my gunsmithing is taking off quite rapidly- just added a 6000.00 lathe and a Mill... So yeah, as to why im somewhat up in the air with everything... I have always enjoyed working with HOTs - But with this economy- and with having a new born son... Its purely business now- eat or be eaten... income - or good looking pair of boots.

Well if its purely investment then sell the female to someone who can produce decent locality offspring with them.

Making hybrids is one of the dumbest things a human can do...

Edit: If it's just income you are interested in, buy some ball python morphs and breed them. You will have better success with BPs than you would with making hybrids just because they look better (your opinion)

Maybe you should concentrate on your "rapidly taking off" gunsmithing, Graham - and quit the "hobby?
I do not believe that many of our members here - mainly hobbyists - will approve your mental atttude.
I really hope there are things left in your life whose value doesn't depend just on income.

shocked greetings

Peter

and @all:
let's go back to topic!
Mr. Ebert is in search for Bitis nasicornis offspring.........

This idea is just stupid Graham.

I don't mind that my topic turned into an important general discussion. If needed just move it to another cathegory.

To also get involved: I don't like hybrids (and colour-morphs) at all and breeding reptiles just for making profit is not the idea I had when I started getting my first Pogona vitticeps. I'm now much deeper in this reptile scene as I would have ever thought and I abhor breeding hybrids more and more. I'm that kind of nature-guy who loves originals meaning animals and plants.

If the profit becomes more important than the joy of successful breeding I would agree with Peter and advice to give up your "hobby".

Many species are already extinct so lets make them at least exist and be loved in our hobby (as far as keeping these species is a hobby and not a profit machine). A good example for this is likely Boa c. sabogae.

Concerning the topic: Is anyone in the fortunate position to have and breed true Itury forest animals?

Sincerely

Manuel Ebert