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Rob Deans Snakemaster


 Number of posts: 313 Age: 30 Location: South Africa Points: 1672 Registration date: 2008-04-24
 | Subject: Another sit in Tue 30 Mar - 20:15 | |
| http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/sussex/8594267.stm
When will these end? |
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Scotty Allen Snakecharmer


 Number of posts: 103 Age: 57 Location: southern Ontario, CANADA Points: 1297 Registration date: 2008-11-19
 | Subject: Re: Another sit in Tue 30 Mar - 20:20 | |
| Perhaps when the morons no longer get any publicity, and no one pays any attention to them, they will stop doing it. |
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Stefan Anthonijsz Serpent Chief


 Number of posts: 589 Age: 25 Location: the Netherlands Points: 1609 Registration date: 2009-09-29
 | Subject: Re: Another sit in Tue 30 Mar - 23:54 | |
| What is the problem guys? He is doing it for raising money for hte St Catherine's Hospice in Crawley.
I have a lot of respect for (Mad) Martin that he did the same a while ago. He was also raising money. These guys doesn't only raise money but let also see that venomous snakes aren't too bad if you know how to work with them. |
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Rob Deans Snakemaster


 Number of posts: 313 Age: 30 Location: South Africa Points: 1672 Registration date: 2008-04-24
 | Subject: Re: Another sit in Wed 31 Mar - 17:41 | |
| Stefan - The guy who went in after Martin was bitten by 2 Puff Adders and 1 Snouted cobra, how did he show the public that venomous snakes are not that bad? There are other ways to increase awareness for venomous snakes.
Also, I dont understand why this gentleman is coming to SA to raise funds for an organisation in UK whose currency is worth 12 times what ours is? Is he being sponsored by people in the UK or what?
Everyone has their own opinion, this happens to be mine |
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Guenter Leitenbauer Lord of the Serpents


 Number of posts: 1355 Age: 46 Location: Gunskirchen / Austria Points: 2562 Registration date: 2008-05-17
 | Subject: Re: Another sit in Wed 31 Mar - 20:47 | |
| Such things miscredit the hobby a lot IMHO. He should do this with some Kraits, so he would not wake up and share the fate with a lot of poor Indian people who have to sleep on the floor because they lack of other possibilities ... |
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Jon Davidson Snakemaster


 Number of posts: 391 Age: 56 Location: Toronto area, Canada Points: 1464 Registration date: 2009-02-28
 | Subject: Re: Another sit in Wed 31 Mar - 23:08 | |
| I agree with Mr. Deans, Mr. Allen and Mr. Leitenbauer with regard to these kinds of publicity stunts. Sincerely, Jon Davidson . |
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Stefan Anthonijsz Serpent Chief


 Number of posts: 589 Age: 25 Location: the Netherlands Points: 1609 Registration date: 2009-09-29
 | Subject: Re: Another sit in Thu 1 Apr - 18:28 | |
| You may think wath you think... I just have great respect for Martin the current record holder. |
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Peter Zürcher Admin


 Number of posts: 870 Age: 60 Location: Carinthia, Austria Points: 2886 Registration date: 2008-03-06
 | Subject: Re: Another sit in Thu 1 Apr - 19:04 | |
| Respect? I have respect for people doing benefits for others - without feeding their own ego doing that. Maybe i can have respect for snake keepers doing their job serious and avoiding to take risks. But for a guy who was bitten under such stupid self-inflicted circumstances - no, sorry.
Stupidity doesn't earn respect in my opinion.
Peter _________________ Cobras - breathtaking beauties!
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Rob Deans Snakemaster


 Number of posts: 313 Age: 30 Location: South Africa Points: 1672 Registration date: 2008-04-24
 | Subject: Re: Another sit in Thu 1 Apr - 19:50 | |
| Stefan - I have no issue with Martin at all. I like him. Any correspondence I have had with him in the past has always been pleasant. He went about doing the sit in without too much self promotion and ego feeding, he got out without being bitten and also states it was the stupidest thing he has ever done.
Its the sit in concept that bothers me, especially after dumbass, I mean Nutty Natie went and got bitten 3 times by deadly snakes before learning his lesson.
What if Mr Jones is bitten and loses a limb, or dies? Is it worth it? He has a family. |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: Another sit in Fri 2 Apr - 8:25 | |
| My two pennies....as if it is worth anything....But, here goes...
While the guys who do these sit ins, are often raising money for charity, inwhich I respect, I have no respect for the owners of the snake park which is hosting this. - The owners, and management of the park did an appauling job for Natie Swarts recent attempt, which resulted in him being bitten three times! - Granted, Natie made the silly mistakes of being bitten, but all three bites could have been avoided with more care and attention on his part, and there parts.
I have great respect for Martin Smit and his efforts, and I am really proud of him, that he did it, and came out in one piece.
While I do not subscribe to snake sit ins, due to animal cruelty (You're putting Naja annufilera with Bitis arietans....big mistake). I do not like the idea of encouraging cannibalism in a captive environment, regardless to whether it happens in the Bush or not. Naja annufilera are not strictly snake eaters, as are their Asian counterparts, O. hannah, so there is no need whatsoever to encourage them with other snakes they may be tempted to prey upon, including their own species.
If David recieves a bite, it will be one more nail in the coffin towards a worldwide ban of venomous snake keeping privately. and especially if he is unfortunate enough to pass following the bite. There are other ways to make money, without fulfilling egos, I'm sorry, but that is how I feel. - The guy has a family for goodness sake, if he is killed by a bite, then he will be leaving loved ones left behind.
While I do wish David well, and good luck, I think the risk he is taking is bizaar, and certainly not one that anybody should attempt.
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Stefan Anthonijsz Serpent Chief


 Number of posts: 589 Age: 25 Location: the Netherlands Points: 1609 Registration date: 2009-09-29
 | Subject: Re: Another sit in Fri 2 Apr - 21:25 | |
| Hi all I am sorry... Would like say little more but it is hard for me to express myself in English... Hope you guys understand. |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: Another sit in Fri 2 Apr - 23:11 | |
| | Stefan Anthonijsz wrote: | | Hi all I am sorry... Would like say little more but it is hard for me to express myself in English... Hope you guys understand. |
No worries, buddy! - I know PLENTY of people who speak English as a primary language, that could learn a thing or two and take tips from you. You're Grammar is fine, don't worry about it.  |
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Mario Lutz Founder


 Number of posts: 1398 Age: 44 Location: Puerto Galera, Philippines Points: 3669 Registration date: 2008-03-06
 | Subject: Re: Another sit in Sat 3 Apr - 0:09 | |
| | James Mintram wrote: | | Naja annifilera with Bitis aritetans....big mistake). |
small technical correction here James: the correct scientific names of both species would be: Naja annulifera and Bitis arietans
cheers M. _________________ Attitude, rather than disposition is more definitive of serpent behavior. From the moment they emerge into this world until they complete their life cycle, their attitude is "Don't tread on me. I am well equipped to defend myself, but content to pass through life unnoticed. I mean no harm to anything or anyone that our creator has not provided as my bill of fare; I am self sustaining and I like it that way, please pass me by." - W.E. Haast
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: Another sit in Sat 3 Apr - 0:41 | |
| | Mario Lutz wrote: | | James Mintram wrote: | | Naja annifilera with Bitis aritetans....big mistake). |
small technical correction here James: the correct scientific names of both species would be: Naja annulifera and Bitis arietans
cheers M. |
Cheers Mario. - I shall correct my spelling (which I don't usually get wrong for those species) and put the species names in Italic. |
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