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PostSubject: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Tue 15 Jun - 11:42

I thought you all may enjoy this photo:

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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Tue 15 Jun - 15:20

i hope she gave it bck john Laughing

nice looking snake


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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Tue 15 Jun - 16:51

Is this a gun?
I hate guns ... much more damage is done by guns than by venomous snakes!
Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Tue 15 Jun - 16:56

yes Günther its a gun or better said a rifle , a so called Ar15 wich is the civilien version of the M16 .
People in the US have a much diffrent affiliatien with ugns then we do Günther so for john there was nothing unnormalbout this picture and iam sure he didnt post it to upset people
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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Tue 15 Jun - 17:11

Great looking snake, but why all Americans spread and posess gun ? There is no point.
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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Tue 15 Jun - 17:16

Nice snake and gun Very Happy

Id like to be able to own both someday, unfortunately both are very expensive even though i think that AR15 is more expensive to feed than the snake Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Tue 15 Jun - 17:17

I don't care about the American emotions about their constitutional right to possess and wear guns - the only aim of such guns is to kill people with it. It is and will always be a stupid thing to me.

BTW: Canada is not far away and there is a complete other understanding of this. So in England where even not all policemen wear guns!


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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Tue 15 Jun - 17:24

i dont know günther but there is probably as much people in canada owning guns as there is in the us since they both thrive on hunting a lot .only the regulations in keeping them are diffrent to my understandment
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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Tue 15 Jun - 17:26

Yes Guenter, that's sad, people all over the world die from gun and some poeple pay a lot of money for another rifle, no sense.


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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Tue 15 Jun - 17:27

I did not speak of rifles for hunting, though hunting is not a hobby I am an addict to.
But I respect all hunters. In Europe they care of the deer and the wood which is indeed important ... but [Wikipedia]:

The AR-15 (ArmaLite Model 15[8]) is a widely owned[9] semi-automatic rifle, of which the most famous derivative is the selective fire M16-series assault rifle used by the United States military.


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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Tue 15 Jun - 17:32

i know Günther but thats what most people use it for iam sure thats what john will answer you if you ask him , of course considerin were talking bout the normal individual and not some gangbangers downtown la or elsewhere .
i am not trying to say its right its just there normal dayly life
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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Tue 15 Jun - 17:38

OK Stephan, I did not want to start a general discussion about that here.

There are many things I cannot accept as tolerable in the US, private firearms is just one of it, death penalty is another as well as always playing the world cop (at least if some petrol interests are involved). On the other hand it is a fine democracy with a well working justice system and a free press where some European countries could indeed learn.
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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Tue 15 Jun - 17:43

i see where on the same level there günther Smile i tottaly agree with your last statement

and putting those two on the same pic doesnt speak of much taste since both are responsable for a lot of death each year in southamerica even though the snake iwll naever match the man made tool in the numbers
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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Wed 16 Jun - 0:51

That is a truly beautiful snake
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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Wed 16 Jun - 2:20

Great picture! I like both but I prefer to have the bushmaster snake in my collection! But would like to play with the other one also Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Wed 16 Jun - 2:25

oh man, that´s amazing picture I really love it:) And cool gun too
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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Wed 16 Jun - 4:04

Guenter Leitenbauer wrote:
I don't care about the American emotions about their constitutional right to possess and wear guns - the only aim of such guns is to kill people with it. It is and will always be a stupid thing to me.
- I agree whit you Guenter
BTW: Canada is not far away and there is a complete other understanding of this.
So in England where even not all policemen wear guns!
- THAT´s the thing I don´t understand, police without gun ... how they could protect
people on HOT situation when the other side have guns ...


... but the snake is really beautiful
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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Wed 16 Jun - 6:37

Guys, did you even read the title of this post?! I mean come on... It's a play on words, no need to get up on barricades no matter how much you dislike guns.

Have you ever heard a phrase "guns don't kill people, I kill people"? Haha, just kidding, that was from a Jon Lajoie video. Funny guy, check him out at youtube.
Most of you should now know that I was referring to the saying "guns don't kill people, people kill people". Comments in the vein of 'why do all Americans spread and own guns' is just a dumb generalization and totally beside the point of the original post.
Just how great a percentage of criminals apply for and get a permit for a firearm anyway?

Cool snake, and I too like the photo. Maybe you should re-do it once the snake gets some length to it, get them both fully into the pic? Maybe sell that photo for a Bushmaster ad Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Wed 16 Jun - 9:33

Geography of Gun and Pit viper

West world

Est world


Just for joke Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Wed 16 Jun - 13:31

Christian Moisander wrote:
Guys, did you even read the title of this post?! I mean come on... It's a play on words, no need to get up on barricades no matter how much you dislike guns.

Most of you should now know that I was referring to the saying "guns don't kill people, people kill people". Comments in the vein of 'why do all Americans spread and own guns' is just a dumb generalization and totally beside the point of the original post.


Sure Christian, great argument - You could legalize everything with respect to this argument.
Start with cannabis, I'd subscribe instantaneously! Very Happy

Besides that there was no generalization that all Americans spread guns. But it is a fact that in the US many more people own guns than in Europe and that many more incidents happen with guns involved than in Europe.
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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Wed 16 Jun - 18:49

It's worth noting, that since the UK banned handguns, gun crime has actually increased! Criminals will never apply for a firearms license and law abiding folks get penalised by a law which makes no difference whatsoever to the crimes involving firearms. There was a comedy program back in the '90s about a small police station, their Inspector summed up the general attitute in the UK to guns "Anyone who actually wants to own a gun is by definition, unsuitable to own one"

You can kill people just as effectively with a kitcken knife, screwdriver, baseball/cricket bat, hammer........it's the person on the end of the weapon that dictates the end result, not the item itself.

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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Wed 16 Jun - 19:19

Guenter Leitenbauer wrote:
Christian Moisander wrote:
Guys, did you even read the title of this post?! I mean come on... It's a play on words, no need to get up on barricades no matter how much you dislike guns.

Most of you should now know that I was referring to the saying "guns don't kill people, people kill people". Comments in the vein of 'why do all Americans spread and own guns' is just a dumb generalization and totally beside the point of the original post.


Sure Christian, great argument - You could legalize everything with respect to this argument.
Start with cannabis, I'd subscribe instantaneously! Very Happy

Hehe, I'm not so sure about that, Guenter. Besides, I'm very much against drugs, so no thanks Smile

Guenter Leitenbauer wrote:
Besides that there was no generalization that all Americans spread guns. But it is a fact that in the US many more people own guns than in Europe and that many more incidents happen with guns involved than in Europe.

Even though it was not meant to reflect on the posts of all that opposed, there was this comment which I referred to;

Piotr Przybylski wrote:
Great looking snake, but why all Americans spread and posess gun ? There is no point.


I would have to agree with Stuart; after the latest school-shooting here, the proposed legislation would make things very difficult to gun hobbyists/target shooters (whatever the proper term) as well as hunters. I think that some ideas that were floating around at that time would've even caused difficulties for police officers to carry a handgun on duty. Don't remember right off the bat the details.

Gorgeous snakes Michele.
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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Wed 16 Jun - 19:32

stuart douglas wrote:
It's worth noting, that since the UK banned handguns, gun crime has actually increased!


Sorry Stu, no statistically relevant increase:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6960431.stm

I don't want to talk too much about statistics here ... but at these low samples 3% up or down are far beyond any statistically relevance.

@Chris:
So You meant Piotr not me, OK, I did not get this at first.
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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Wed 16 Jun - 19:40

Christian Moisander wrote:

Hehe, I'm not so sure about that, Guenter. Besides, I'm very much against drugs, so no thanks Smile


Me too. Anyway I sometimes enjoy a glass of beer or wine and if You overthink it emotionless alcohol is much more a drug than THC because it leads to addicts and thousands of death' every year in Europe.
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PostSubject: Re: Bushmasters, both the AR and the pit viper!   Wed 16 Jun - 20:02

Christian, talking here about that is just hopeless, That is the wrong place. We shouldn't have started this gab and written then. Every one has his own mind, I'm not gonna change your, that's that. It's better to come back to snakes.
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