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Carsten Frömberg Snakecharmer

Number of posts: 114 Age: 33 Location: Germany Points: 1624 Registration date: 2008-03-25
 | Subject: Naja samarensis clutch Fri 25 Apr - 17:12 | |
| Yesterday still was a great day. From my samarensis I got 8 fine eggs (1 seems to be not ok). The eggs looks different to each other. Some are not so long and roundish...other ones are longer/longish. I was a little bit surprised that the eggs are so big. I think they are as big as mein Naja kaouthia eggs.  Does anyone know if somebody have breed this ones still in Germany? At the moment I feel pretty lucky Lets see when they will hatch. |
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Mario Lutz Founder


 Number of posts: 1402 Age: 44 Location: Puerto Galera, Philippines Points: 3781 Registration date: 2008-03-06
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Fri 25 Apr - 19:01 | |
| you are man, you are! congratulation, i will be grand dad again i cross my fingers that everything will be fine, small tip besides, ill always incubated the N.samarensis eggs at 27,4°C with 0,5°C drop at night. the hatchlings hatched after 74 - 83 days, and the sex ratio was always balanced. good luck! Cheers Mario _________________ Attitude, rather than disposition is more definitive of serpent behavior. From the moment they emerge into this world until they complete their life cycle, their attitude is "Don't tread on me. I am well equipped to defend myself, but content to pass through life unnoticed. I mean no harm to anything or anyone that our creator has not provided as my bill of fare; I am self sustaining and I like it that way, please pass me by." - W.E. Haast
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Peter Zürcher Admin


 Number of posts: 928 Age: 60 Location: Carinthia, Austria Points: 3066 Registration date: 2008-03-06
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Fri 25 Apr - 19:52 | |
| Congratulations, lucky man I'm still waiting for my own clutch(es), no female seems to be gravid at this time. My first samarensis eggs heve been laid on June 5th two years ago, so their's still time to hope.
Very interesting to see some of the samarensis-buyers killed their animals within a few weeks, whereas others keep them alive and breed them..... Good lucck for the time of incubation. Cheers Peter _________________ Cobras - breathtaking beauties!
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Peter Pastor Snakecharmer


Number of posts: 220 Age: 37 Location: Slovakia Points: 1671 Registration date: 2008-03-08
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Sat 26 Apr - 2:15 | |
| Amazing news, congratulation! I am looking forward to see pictures of hatched babies soon.... All the best, Peter P. |
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AndrewGalano Snakekeeper


 Number of posts: 75 Age: 31 Location: Singapore / Philippines Points: 1500 Registration date: 2008-04-16
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Sat 26 Apr - 15:07 | |
| looking great!! goodluck with the whole clutch  |
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Jörg Porstmann Founder

 Number of posts: 249 Age: 38 Location: Ahlen, NRW, Germany Points: 2156 Registration date: 2008-03-06
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Sat 26 Apr - 15:51 | |
| As I said on phone - I wish you all the best. I will visit you and your little spitters when they were born. |
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Harold van der Ploeg Snakemaster


 Number of posts: 287 Age: 35 Location: The Netherlands Points: 1747 Registration date: 2008-04-27
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Sun 27 Apr - 5:31 | |
| Congratulations Carsten! I wish you luck with incubating! | Peter Zürcher wrote: | Very interesting to see some of the samarensis-buyers killed their animals within a few weeks, whereas others keep them alive and breed them.....
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Cheers, Harold |
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Peter Pastor Snakecharmer


Number of posts: 220 Age: 37 Location: Slovakia Points: 1671 Registration date: 2008-03-08
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Sun 27 Apr - 15:49 | |
| | Harold van der Ploeg wrote: | | 'killed' their animals?Harold |
Hi Harold,
Peter is reffering to another thread, check "WC vs. CB, Prices etc." under "Herp-culture". That will tell you more...
Best regards, Peter P. |
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Carsten Frömberg Snakecharmer

Number of posts: 114 Age: 33 Location: Germany Points: 1624 Registration date: 2008-03-25
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Tue 29 Apr - 16:20 | |
| So after the first days the eggs look pretty good I incubate them at a temperature of 27,5°C - 28,5°C Just another Question. Does anyone know of (legal) captive born Naja samarensis in Germany. Or would that be the firstbreed in Germany? |
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Peter Zürcher Admin


 Number of posts: 928 Age: 60 Location: Carinthia, Austria Points: 3066 Registration date: 2008-03-06
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Tue 29 Apr - 16:48 | |
| Hi Carsten As far as I know, Marios exports of Naja samarensis have been the first and only ones in a complete legal way. I never heard about samarensis breedings in Germany, there's one person in Switzerland who bred them for a couple of times. His breeding adults must have left the Philippines illegallly, but they might be legal in Switzerland due to a stopover in some other country, I guess. Cheers Peter _________________ Cobras - breathtaking beauties!
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Jörg Porstmann Founder

 Number of posts: 249 Age: 38 Location: Ahlen, NRW, Germany Points: 2156 Registration date: 2008-03-06
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Tue 29 Apr - 16:54 | |
| First of all, there is only one "fellow" samarensis keeper here in Germany - unless Peter have sold some here in Germany.
So don´t worry. You must be the first. |
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Martina Luksch

 Number of posts: 3 Age: 31 Location: Germany Points: 1480 Registration date: 2008-04-30
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Wed 30 Apr - 22:07 | |
| Hi Carsten! Congratulations and best wishes Hope you can show us some little spitters in some weeks  Is it impertinent to ask for pictures of your adult samarensis? Martina |
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Jakob H. Christensen Snakecharmer


 Number of posts: 133 Age: 31 Location: Danmark Points: 1590 Registration date: 2008-04-21
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Thu 1 May - 16:39 | |
| Congrats Carsten! Can I persuade you to post a pictures of the parent animals? Samarensis is definately one Naja species, you can't see too many times  |
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Carsten Frömberg Snakecharmer

Number of posts: 114 Age: 33 Location: Germany Points: 1624 Registration date: 2008-03-25
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Fri 2 May - 23:44 | |
| So here are 2 pictures of my breeding pair. female  male  |
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Mario Lutz Founder


 Number of posts: 1402 Age: 44 Location: Puerto Galera, Philippines Points: 3781 Registration date: 2008-03-06
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Fri 2 May - 23:56 | |
| handsome snakes, i wonder where did you got them from...  nice to see them again, and nice to see them having a nice clutch of eggs. Terry at reptilegardens have also eggs from them. they got animals from us to... i am happy to see, we gave the snakes in good hands! thanks guys.. cheers Mario _________________ Attitude, rather than disposition is more definitive of serpent behavior. From the moment they emerge into this world until they complete their life cycle, their attitude is "Don't tread on me. I am well equipped to defend myself, but content to pass through life unnoticed. I mean no harm to anything or anyone that our creator has not provided as my bill of fare; I am self sustaining and I like it that way, please pass me by." - W.E. Haast
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Jakob H. Christensen Snakecharmer


 Number of posts: 133 Age: 31 Location: Danmark Points: 1590 Registration date: 2008-04-21
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Sat 3 May - 2:31 | |
| Thanks Carsten! They are really nice!!! |
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Carsten Frömberg Snakecharmer

Number of posts: 114 Age: 33 Location: Germany Points: 1624 Registration date: 2008-03-25
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Mon 30 Jun - 16:27 | |
| Some new infos...or rather not many new information.
Today is Day 68 and still nothing hatched. Until one week ago I´ve incubated them on 27 1/2 - 29 degree without drop at night. After I´ve seen a little dent on an egg I put the incubation temperature a little bit down. Now it´s ~27 - 28.
The 6 eggs looks ok...and I hope that something will hatch soon. I´m wondering about the long incubation. The kaouthias hatched all the years after ~58 Days (Temperature 27,5-29 C). |
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Mario Lutz Founder


 Number of posts: 1402 Age: 44 Location: Puerto Galera, Philippines Points: 3781 Registration date: 2008-03-06
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Tue 1 Jul - 7:45 | |
| dont you worry...
i had had 85 days already... be patient and wait!
cheers Mario _________________ Attitude, rather than disposition is more definitive of serpent behavior. From the moment they emerge into this world until they complete their life cycle, their attitude is "Don't tread on me. I am well equipped to defend myself, but content to pass through life unnoticed. I mean no harm to anything or anyone that our creator has not provided as my bill of fare; I am self sustaining and I like it that way, please pass me by." - W.E. Haast
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Carsten Frömberg Snakecharmer

Number of posts: 114 Age: 33 Location: Germany Points: 1624 Registration date: 2008-03-25
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Tue 1 Jul - 15:45 | |
| 85 Days...wow...thats long for cobras or not? I just wonder a little bit about this long incubation. You incubated at a temp. of 27,4 C and 0,5 drop at night? From all my incubated eggs (corn snakes, kaouthia´s, burmese python, cerastes) they hatched after round about 60 days. The temperature was always 27,5 - 29,0 degree...only the temperature for the burmese was higher (31 C). Ok then I´ll have to wait and drink some tea  |
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Arcy_Salvacion Snakekeeper

 Number of posts: 89 Age: 29 Location: Philippines Points: 1444 Registration date: 2008-06-30
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Tue 1 Jul - 20:45 | |
| wow nice Naja samarensis, best wishes, looking forward to see the hatchlings
Be safe -arcy |
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Mario Lutz Founder


 Number of posts: 1402 Age: 44 Location: Puerto Galera, Philippines Points: 3781 Registration date: 2008-03-06
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Wed 2 Jul - 15:46 | |
| i incubate my naja samarensis eggs between 26,4 to 27,3°C, never stable always changing temp. i do not believe in stable temperatures. in nature, there is nothing like stable conditions.
Mario _________________ Attitude, rather than disposition is more definitive of serpent behavior. From the moment they emerge into this world until they complete their life cycle, their attitude is "Don't tread on me. I am well equipped to defend myself, but content to pass through life unnoticed. I mean no harm to anything or anyone that our creator has not provided as my bill of fare; I am self sustaining and I like it that way, please pass me by." - W.E. Haast
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Carsten Frömberg Snakecharmer

Number of posts: 114 Age: 33 Location: Germany Points: 1624 Registration date: 2008-03-25
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Wed 2 Jul - 15:47 | |
| I think drinking tea has been a good idea. Today in the morning ( Day 70) I´ve seen the first head So let´s wait some days and see how many will hatch. Of course I´ll post some pics of the hatchlings. |
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Jelmer Groen Snakekeeper

 Number of posts: 98 Age: 28 Location: the Netherlands Points: 1533 Registration date: 2008-04-04
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Wed 2 Jul - 15:52 | |
| Great! Gratuliere!  |
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Harold van der Ploeg Snakemaster


 Number of posts: 287 Age: 35 Location: The Netherlands Points: 1747 Registration date: 2008-04-27
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Wed 2 Jul - 18:02 | |
| Superb! Congratulations, that's absolutely great! I'm looking forward to the pictures. Cheers, Harold |
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Arcy_Salvacion Snakekeeper

 Number of posts: 89 Age: 29 Location: Philippines Points: 1444 Registration date: 2008-06-30
 | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Wed 2 Jul - 19:03 | |
| I am excited to see the babies,
Again Congrats!!! |
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