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Albert J. Montejo Snakecharmer

 Number of posts: 244 Age: 53 Location: Coconut Grove , Miami Florida Points: 566 Registration date: 2011-03-01
 | Subject: Exclusive Albino Toad Headed Pitviper ! Tue 17 May - 15:19 | |
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Date Posted by Category May 16, 2011
Tanieata
Venomous
Bothrops Jararacussu Albino !
Exclusive ! first time ever The Toad Headed Pitviper , an albino Bothrops Jararacussu asking 100,000.00 inquire Albert, Text or call 786 237-6010 Zoobotanicals @ aol.com
Phone: 786-237-6010 Email: Zoobotanicals@aol.com Email this to a friend! Previous: breeding pair of dusky pygmys More Recent: Bothrops Jararacussu babies !
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Albert J. Montejo Snakecharmer

 Number of posts: 244 Age: 53 Location: Coconut Grove , Miami Florida Points: 566 Registration date: 2011-03-01
 | Subject: Exclusive ! Toad headed Albino Jararacussu het. babies Tue 17 May - 15:25 | |
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Date Posted by Category May 16, 2011
Tanieata
Venomous
Bothrops Jararacussu babies !
Exclusive! Albino Toad headed Pit viper hets. 25,000.00 pr. Text or Call 786-237-6010 now! Zoobotanicals @ aol.com
Phone: 786-237-6010 Email: Zoobotanicals@aol.com Email this to a friend! Previous: Bothrops Jararacussu Albino ! addtl. PICS. AVAILABLE ON VENOMOUS REPTILE ORG. SITE . |
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Guenter Leitenbauer Lord of the Serpents


 Number of posts: 1370 Age: 46 Location: Gunskirchen / Austria Points: 2684 Registration date: 2008-05-17
 | Subject: Re: Exclusive Albino Toad Headed Pitviper ! Tue 17 May - 17:25 | |
| Wow, 100.000 bucks for a genetically defect specimen ...  |
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Bostjan Kraner Serpent Chief


 Number of posts: 573 Age: 33 Location: Maribor - Slovenia Points: 1509 Registration date: 2010-03-14
 | Subject: Re: Exclusive Albino Toad Headed Pitviper ! Tue 17 May - 17:35 | |
| There are definetly some people with more money than sense:) Self excluded
Best regards, BKK |
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Greg Starkins Snakekeeper


 Number of posts: 68 Age: 24 Location: Watford, UK Points: 738 Registration date: 2010-08-17
 | Subject: Re: Exclusive Albino Toad Headed Pitviper ! Tue 17 May - 21:30 | |
| That is a ridiculous amount of money. Can't see the attraction myself. |
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Rainer Fesser Systematicus

 Number of posts: 418 Age: 62 Location: Austria Points: 1952 Registration date: 2008-03-13
 | Subject: Re: Exclusive Albino Toad Headed Pitviper ! Wed 18 May - 3:30 | |
| Shaking my head or / and laugh, what else? |
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Brian Petrie Snakecharmer

 Number of posts: 210 Age: 60 Location: England Points: 1535 Registration date: 2008-09-23
 | Subject: Re: Exclusive Albino Toad Headed Pitviper ! Wed 18 May - 5:00 | |
| I thought the Toad-headed Pit Vipers were the genus Bothrocophias. Bothrops jararacussu is commonly called the Jararacussu, I know it has many local names, but I did not think it was called a Toad-headed Pit Viper. Cheers, Brian. |
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Albert J. Montejo Snakecharmer

 Number of posts: 244 Age: 53 Location: Coconut Grove , Miami Florida Points: 566 Registration date: 2011-03-01
 | Subject: Re: Exclusive Albino Toad Headed Pitviper ! Wed 18 May - 5:18 | |
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i enjoy interaction and debate with you all, but this might not be the location for this , later when my friend Dr. Kempter post my pics well open a debate and thread with yet one more exclusive albino ophid you will not believe your eyes , keep comments coming as long as Peter allows . Sorry, ladies and gentlemen! I deleted Mr. Montejo's and the following posts.
I'm in increasing doubt if Mr. Montejo understands our philosophy here....
Sincerely
Peter Zürcher Admin
_________________ Cobras - breathtaking beauties!
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Guenter Leitenbauer Lord of the Serpents


 Number of posts: 1370 Age: 46 Location: Gunskirchen / Austria Points: 2684 Registration date: 2008-05-17
 | Subject: Re: Exclusive Albino Toad Headed Pitviper ! Wed 18 May - 13:24 | |
| You should write WHICH comment he deleted!
You told us then that because You could not manage to handle a Naja nivea You finally beheaded it with a butchers knife and dispatched it (Your words, exactly!). I can understand that he deleted this.
I hate to repeat it but otherwise Your statement would give a complete wrong picture about "censorship" here. |
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Albert J. Montejo Snakecharmer

 Number of posts: 244 Age: 53 Location: Coconut Grove , Miami Florida Points: 566 Registration date: 2011-03-01
 | Subject: Re: Exclusive Albino Toad Headed Pitviper ! Wed 18 May - 14:48 | |
| Good Morning , Guenter , This did not actually happen i was trying to give an example by thinking Dutch but speaking English , after all Mr. Leitenbauer if i couldn't handle a Cape cobra how could i perform the dispatchment.
i think that thread should stay where Peter put it . it was an attempt at a translation gone bad i would never consider this act if i needed to put a reptile down i would take it to a Vet.
if anyone was offended for this i digress and will try to improve on my example to new and up coming herpetoculturistas , Thank you, Guenter, no further comments .
Sincerely ,
Albert. |
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Marthinus C. Harmse Snakemaster


 Number of posts: 259 Age: 30 Location: South-Africa Points: 1479 Registration date: 2009-04-18
 | Subject: Re: Exclusive Albino Toad Headed Pitviper ! Wed 18 May - 16:13 | |
| What is Tanieata? Bothriopsis taeniata. perhaps? Still you persist with not adhering to writing standards after we asked you in the most polite way not to do so. Language barriers can be overcome and mistakes are ok, but not deliberate attempts such as these.
As for your 100 000 Bothrocophias/Bothrops? You want to sell something for 100 000 but you yourself do not know what you are selling by using incorrect terminolgy. I have a feeling you are trying to make a statement with these irrational amounts. Also, now for the first time I am having my doubts about how knowledgable you are.
We leave this to the mods. Not getting involved in future threads such as these.
Regards MCH
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Albert J. Montejo Snakecharmer

 Number of posts: 244 Age: 53 Location: Coconut Grove , Miami Florida Points: 566 Registration date: 2011-03-01
 | Subject: Re: Exclusive Albino Toad Headed Pitviper ! Wed 18 May - 16:24 | |
| Good morning Marthinus i will anwser all questions in the proper category. Dr. Mirco Kempter has posted about the B. jararacussu and i promise i will not dissapoint you. Give me about one hour im prepareing some boxes for shipping .
Dont give up i will debate with you !
sincerely
Albert. |
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Guenter Leitenbauer Lord of the Serpents


 Number of posts: 1370 Age: 46 Location: Gunskirchen / Austria Points: 2684 Registration date: 2008-05-17
 | Subject: Re: Exclusive Albino Toad Headed Pitviper ! Wed 18 May - 17:08 | |
| | Albert J. Montejo wrote: | | i was trying to give an example by thinking Dutch but speaking English |
Sorry, I don't speak Dutch, just German and a bit of English. If You want to say that "thinking Dutch" means violence against animals, I am sure our Dutch friends will have some comments for that ... |
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Peter Zürcher Admin


 Number of posts: 928 Age: 60 Location: Carinthia, Austria Points: 3068 Registration date: 2008-03-06
 | Subject: Re: Exclusive Albino Toad Headed Pitviper ! Wed 18 May - 17:42 | |
| Common names can be very confusing.
Actually the common name Toad Headed Pit Viper refers to the genus Bothrocophias Gutberlet&Campbell,2001.
According to Campbell&Lamar, there is a local name in Brazil "Cabeza de sapo" for Bothrops jararacussu, which in translation means "toadhead".
We should rely here on wellknown and widespread english common names - or better on scientific names only!
regards Peter _________________ Cobras - breathtaking beauties!
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Jan Jonkman Snakecharmer


 Number of posts: 147 Age: 27 Location: The Netherlands Points: 742 Registration date: 2010-10-28
 | Subject: Re: Exclusive Albino Toad Headed Pitviper ! Wed 18 May - 17:58 | |
| | Guenter Leitenbauer wrote: | | I am sure our Dutch friends will have some comments for that ... |
And we come in big numbers on Venomland.. |
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Albert J. Montejo Snakecharmer

 Number of posts: 244 Age: 53 Location: Coconut Grove , Miami Florida Points: 566 Registration date: 2011-03-01
 | Subject: Re: Exclusive Albino Toad Headed Pitviper ! Wed 18 May - 19:00 | |
| Well Good morning Gentlemen , i have put off my training session till later to anwser your questions. 1) Guenter Leitenbauer, 100,000.00 is a low figure for a quick sale , most times it's Zoos or private alligator farms (attractions) that purchase these specimen as a draw and charge an admission to view, they generate enough revenue to pay for the animal at least two hundred times over in just one year. *Albino alligators sold for over 250,000.00 and i sold albino Anaconda 125,000.00 to Japan. etc.
2) Bostjan Kraner, see Anws. 1#
3) Greg Starkins, see Anws. 1#
4) Rainer Fesser, see Anws. 1#
5) Brian Petrie , See Peter Zurcher's anwser and explanation.
6) Marthinus C. Harmse, Tanieata is my nickname on Venomous Retile Org. b. Bothrops Jararacussu , see Peters Zurcher explanation. c. See Anws. 1# d. About my knowledge i already explained that on my manifesto .( Art.) Bothrops insularis,.
5) Peter Zurcher , Thank you !
6) Jan Jonkman, Google the word "sheeple" hit the books then report back to VENOMLAND.
Thank you, im not offended as i read your previous post and you do the same technique to most my country men even, Randy Ciuros .
i take it that it's the way you converse .
Looking forward ,
Sincerely,
Albert. |
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Guenter Leitenbauer Lord of the Serpents


 Number of posts: 1370 Age: 46 Location: Gunskirchen / Austria Points: 2684 Registration date: 2008-05-17
 | Subject: Re: Exclusive Albino Toad Headed Pitviper ! Wed 18 May - 19:13 | |
| | Albert J. Montejo wrote: | | Guenter Leitenbauer, 100,000.00 is a low figure for a quick sale , most times it's Zoos or private alligator farms (attractions) that purchase these specimen as a draw and charge an admission to view, they generate enough revenue to pay for the animal at least two hundred times over in just one year. |
Thanks! I did not know that. If You can earn 200 x 100.000 US$ a year by showing a snake, could You please answer me one more question?
Why do You sell it that cheap and don't show it Yourself? I mean ... 20 million bucks are a lot of money ... |
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Albert J. Montejo Snakecharmer

 Number of posts: 244 Age: 53 Location: Coconut Grove , Miami Florida Points: 566 Registration date: 2011-03-01
 | Subject: Re: Exclusive Albino Toad Headed Pitviper ! Wed 18 May - 19:27 | |
| Guenter..In The United States Of America, it's called "Stay in ur lane".
A Zoo is a multi million dollar infrastucture and big business in the US places like Disney World Sea World Orlando, The Serpentarium, The Dallas zoo, Californias ZooBotanical Gardens etc.
*Out of my leauge, i cant even afford to keep Albino hets. of Bothrops Jararacussu.
Talk to you soon , Got to train (work out).
Regards Al.
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Peter Schulze Niehoff Snakecharmer


 Number of posts: 170 Age: 40 Location: near Münster, NRW, Germany Points: 1655 Registration date: 2008-06-30
 | Subject: Re: Exclusive Albino Toad Headed Pitviper ! Wed 18 May - 19:49 | |
| Any phantastic price asked for "rare herps" or whatever is just wish thinking first of all. Anyone will have to pay that amount to turn it into reality. We will see - or even not.
Peter |
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Guenter Leitenbauer Lord of the Serpents


 Number of posts: 1370 Age: 46 Location: Gunskirchen / Austria Points: 2684 Registration date: 2008-05-17
 | Subject: Re: Exclusive Albino Toad Headed Pitviper ! Wed 18 May - 20:08 | |
| Peter, we in Europe with our playground industry and small zoos are so far away to understand the mechanisms of the "multi million dollar zoo infrastructure" in the colonies, I guess we can learn so much from Mr Montejo!  |
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Manuel Reiss Newbie


 Number of posts: 30 Age: 29 Location: Near Heidelberg / Germany Points: 442 Registration date: 2011-05-10
 | Subject: Re: Exclusive Albino Toad Headed Pitviper ! Wed 18 May - 20:29 | |
| Greetings, I think you can´t compare that. If a zoo advertises with headlines like "Only Albino-Anaconda worldwide!" or "Come and see Albino-Alligators!" almost everyone knows what hes´s going to see there, course everyone knows the "Human-Killer-Beast-Snake" Anaconda, and the "living dinosaur" Alligator as well. But these are fameless Pitvipers, just known by some herpelogists and some laymen snake-keepers. They´re quite attractive, that´s for sure, but you can´t compare them with these above known mythological species. But fingers crossed for you to find a good home for them Regards, Manuel |
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Peter Zürcher Admin


 Number of posts: 928 Age: 60 Location: Carinthia, Austria Points: 3068 Registration date: 2008-03-06
 | Subject: Re: Exclusive Albino Toad Headed Pitviper ! Wed 18 May - 20:41 | |
| | Quote: | | to find a good home for them |
Do not believe that the quality of the "new home" will be that important.
Cash is the magic word....however, if you mean the credit rating of "the new home", you might be right.
Further on, we all could see it this way: http://laurelpapworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/Do-not-feed-the-troll.PNG
regards Peter _________________ Cobras - breathtaking beauties!
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jean-henri pastore Snakemaster

 Number of posts: 361 Age: 37 Location: France Points: 1376 Registration date: 2009-11-13
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