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 Naja siamensis CB 2011

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Karl Müller
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PostSubject: Naja siamensis CB 2011   Wed 24 Aug - 14:36

Parents are wild catches from the Nakhon Sawan Province in Central Thailand. The snakes are in my possession are January 2010. In April 2011 she mated, and in June the female lay 16 good eggs and all hatched after 55 days.

The male
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The female
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Hatched
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The hatchlings after their first shed

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Ro vd Bergh
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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis CB 2011   Wed 24 Aug - 14:57

Congrats! The CB look really nice and some of them have an interesting pattern. Nice clutch!

How warm did you incubate them? 30c?

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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis CB 2011   Wed 24 Aug - 20:33

How cool is that? I have to move to Thailand. Beautiful animals Karl.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis CB 2011   Wed 24 Aug - 21:03

I think your guess at incubation temp is pretty close Ro. I hatched them out at 30c in 56 and 58 days in the past, so I think 30c or very slightly higher is correct.

I am wondering where Karl incubated them. I was at his place in May 2010, and he took me and my girl to his new place that he was building, awesome new place. His snakes were outside, at the old place, but under a huge covered area attached to his home, that was full of plants, and looked like a tropical jungle.

Have you built your snake building at your new place Karl? Is that where your living now. Can't wait to see what you've done to the place. It looked like paradise to me in may 2010. I can't imagine how nice it looks now.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis CB 2011   Thu 25 Aug - 5:53

Randy Ciuros wrote:
I think your guess at incubation temp is pretty close Ro. I hatched them out at 30c in 56 and 58 days in the past, so I think 30c or very slightly higher is correct.


Yeah that's why I asked. I like to see if I'm right when somebody tells me the incubating time. This one was pretty easy though I think.
It would really suck now if I'm not right... Very Happy

Randy Ciuros wrote:

I am wondering where Karl incubated them. I was at his place in May 2010, and he took me and my girl to his new place that he was building, awesome new place. His snakes were outside, at the old place, but under a huge covered area attached to his home, that was full of plants, and looked like a tropical jungle.

Have you built your snake building at your new place Karl? Is that where your living now. Can't wait to see what you've done to the place. It looked like paradise to me in may 2010. I can't imagine how nice it looks now.


That sounds to good to be true. I could use some jungle overhere as well.

Cheers, Ro.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis CB 2011   Thu 25 Aug - 15:12

Thanks Ro and Randy!
I incubate the eggs in my kitchen because that is the coldest room in my house. I put the eggs into a plastic box with vermiculite and add them to the floor in the kitchen, the temperatures range from 25 to 32.5 Celsius, according to this method I incubate my other snake eggs.

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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis CB 2011   Thu 25 Aug - 18:10

that are some realy nice youngsters karl..

i have 9 siamensis eggs in the incubater i have them on 26 a 27c is that to low the eggs looking verry nice bright white..

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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis CB 2011   Thu 25 Aug - 19:18

Jorg Schenkels wrote:
that are some realy nice youngsters karl..

i have 9 siamensis eggs in the incubater i have them on 26 a 27c is that to low the eggs looking verry nice bright white..

gr jorg


That's pretty low. They will probably hatch but it will take a long time. I like to be on the low side as well but I would turn it up a notch.
Let's say somewhere around 28,5c.

@Karl; Bwahahaa, you have to go and look for the lowest temp and end up putting them in the kitchenfloor. Very Happy That's a bit different than most of us incubate eggs. Cool. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis CB 2011   Thu 25 Aug - 20:57

I actually hatch all my eggs at 26.6 - 27.2 C, and they do take longer, but the hatchlings are bigger and seem to start eating better most of the time. Here are some differences in temps with a few species and the incubation duration at that temp.

Naja siamensis 26.6 - 27.2 C they took 66 - 67 days, at 29.4 - 30 C they took 56 - 58 days
Naja sumatrana 26.6 - 27.2 C they took 76 - 77 days, at 29.4 - 30 C they took 64 days
Naja oxiana 26.6 - 27.2 C they took 64 days, at 27.7 - 28.3 C they took 63 days
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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis CB 2011   Fri 26 Aug - 5:29

thanks for the info randy that is what i always had lurnt..
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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis CB 2011   Sat 27 Aug - 20:41

That is a realy nice clutch Karl!!! love the different patterns Cool
congrats on the youngsters!
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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis CB 2011   Sat 27 Aug - 23:14

Randy Ciuros wrote:
I actually hatch all my eggs at 26.6 - 27.2 C, and they do take longer, but the hatchlings are bigger and seem to start eating better most of the time.


I have the same experience with incubating on 28.5c Very Happy
The youngs are bigger and eat well. Smarley and me hatched out 3 species of Naja this year and everything eats allready.

Cheers, Ro.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis CB 2011   Mon 29 Aug - 14:57

Although I no consistent temperatures in the incubation
have the hatchlings are big and eat without problems. Very Happy

Cheers, Karl

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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis CB 2011   Tue 30 Aug - 0:23

Some of those babies are gonna be stunners!
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